| Pitiful |
Date: 2012-02-24 18:08:50
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| With so many comments we give the view longer life when it deserves none. Just ignore and like a insect bite it will disappear in short order.
Syd |
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Date: 2012-01-20 02:37:18
By: Sergio S. |
| Feed up of those people.... since the baby is helthy we are racist nazis, but if he dies we are nazis murders. What do we choose to be ? |
| Jew hater |
Date: 2012-01-21 20:32:26
By: Israel Devai |
| try to do what Jesus teaches: to love. To hate is not his commandment |
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Date: 2012-01-18 23:34:27
By: Miriam |
| This \"woman\" is not Jewish! It states non-jew and non-resident. |
| Modern Jew |
Date: 2012-01-19 01:34:49
By: jadehan777 |
| I can not count this woman as a Jew, Olden Jew & Moder jew are diffirent. She belonged to Modern jew. Shes a Dutch as claim. If she hates the Israelites/Jews why she\'s there? leave that country & go back where yoy come from. RIGHT?
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Date: 2012-01-19 02:05:19
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| What a disgusting and shameful schikse , I guess she really didn\'t appreciate that our medical care wanted to give her the best chances to get a healthy child.I am shocked by such a jewhater she\'s an abomination for our yiddischkeit;; get her out of our country !! |
| The true colors of left establishment... |
Date: 2012-01-19 06:27:55
By: PieceMaker |
| Whatever we, the Jews do only makes our enemies hate us more.The poison-filled diatribe of this unthankful racist SS-mother epitomizes the rhetoric of the Left and exposes their lies.Indeed, she should have died in childbirth,as Robin puts it. Here we have witnessed hypocrisy in its worst shape and form...SHAME ON YOU ALL and SHAME ON TROUW and others, who serve as instruments of hate-inciting propaganda in the name of \'democracy\',\'human rights\',\'justice\',\'peace\' and other slogans that have become hollow over the years...WTF were you doing in Israel then?A monster like you should have NO BABIES!What will you tell him when he grows up? \"Evil Jews saved your life?\" |
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Date: 2012-01-19 08:15:23
By: Larissa |
| What kind of a human being should you be to come to these disguisting conclusions? I am truly embarrased she is my fellow compatriote. By the way, last time I checked, The Netherlands has one the highest perinatal death rate in Europe and a high and rising rate of maternal mortality. So Ilse, why don\'t you just shove your baby back into your womb and take the first plane available back to where your baby should have been born.
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| pathetic |
Date: 2012-01-19 12:00:51
By: Brurya |
| ...she\'s proved that cynicism and hate are related, and when a person is blinded by both, no love can save her/him. |
| Nazi Bitch |
Date: 2012-01-19 20:16:47
By: Mark |
| She is a classic Nazi Bitch! There is nothing more that could be said about her and her obnoxious commentary. |
| My Response to the Trouw Article |
Date: 2012-01-19 20:54:18
By: sheldan |
| When I saw an alert regarding the Trouw article, I was offended, but for a different reason. I wrote the following letter to Trouw:
It has come to my attention that the article by this name appeared in Trouw regarding prenatal care in Israel. This article is offensive to me, but not for the implications in the article about Israeli medical care being, in the words of your writer, Ilse van Heusden, a \"military operation\" aimed at, somehow, the production of \"perfect\" babies, nor for the libel that there is an \"Israeli demand to produce many children\", nor even for the content that prompted a response from one of your readers that compared prenatal care in Israel to \"\'eugenics and thus comparing it to Nazism.\"
No, what I have to respond to is possibly what your writer may never have even intended when she chose that title for this diatribe. It is the two words in the title that have been totally misunderstood when discussing Jews: \"Chosen People.\" Anti-Semites have criticized the Jews on the basis of these two words (and for any and no reason) for somehow having an attitude of superiority over the rest of the world, thinking that the phrase \"Chosen People\" implies betterness. I would like to attempt to educate your readers regading the concept of the Chosen People.
I have found an article which argues the correct meaning of the Chosen People. It is \"The Chosen People\" by Natan Lopez Cardoso. He writes:
One of the most disturbing claims ever made by any group of people is the one Jews make when, quoting the Bible, they insist on being the \"Chosen People.\" For nearly four thousand years, Jews have upheld the belief that they are G-d\'s elect, the \"apple of His eye,\" his most beloved and favored nation. Superficially, this claim sounds like prejudice of the highest order, making the vast majority of mankind into second-class citizens.
Note that Lopez Cardoso says \"superficially.\" Sadly, the anti-Semites of the world are only too happy to drive through that hole in rhetoric to twist the phrase into what it is not, as I will describe below.
George Bernard Shaw, Lopez Cardoso quotes, said that \"as long as [the Jews] insisted upon their chosenness they had no right to object to the monstrous way the Germans had killed six million of their people--they had brought it upon themselves [italics added].\" H.G. Wells was quoted as saying the Jewish claim of chosenness was \"a hindrance to world unity.\" Protestant theologians stated opinions about the \"haughtiness of Jewish belief.\"
Of course, if one is looking for the worst to call his or her enemy, he or she will use words like these. But are they (and the writers above) interpreting the concept of chosenness correctly? Lopez Cardozo notes that paradoxically the Bible mentions the Jews stressing the dignity of the entire human race. Note that the creation account in Genesis was not the creation of the Jews; the Jews make their appearance in Genesis 12. And Jews do not prohibit conversion; many of our great people are converts or descended from converts: Lopez Cardozo mentions Ruth, the mother of King David (the forerunner to the Messiah in Jewish belief); Rabbis Akiva, Shemayah, and Avtalyon; and even the commentator Onkelos, who was the Roman Emperor\'s nephew!
The correct meaning of chosenness, in my opinion, is NOT for superiority over the rest of the world. Instead, it has to do with being chosen for a responsibility--the responsibility to transmit a new way of life, sometimes called ethical monotheism, to the world, starting with Abraham. In Lopez Cardozo\'s words, the mission was to \"instruct and teach the whole of mankind of the centrality of G-d and the importance of kindness and giving.\" Far from being the \"masters\" of mankind, Jews were to be the servants of mankind, a group who would maintain their standards as an example for the world to learn a universalist message. Ironically, the Jews would have to be a particularist people to do this. Maybe that is why the Jews have been so misunderstood for four thousand years by the rest of the world.
As I said, no doubt the writer may not have had the slightest idea how incendiary her choice of words for the title of her article were. I am sure other readers were offended by the vicious tone of the article itself, which may only strengthen the tendencies of some people to believe the worst of Israel--and by extension, the Jews. But I agree with the fact that such an article, for whatever reason, did not belong in a paper that should be informing its readers of the truth.
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Date: 2012-01-19 21:42:02
By: Simon Wajcer |
| Factual, rational and logical argument is ineffective against the lies and hate spewed by anti-Semites; ridicule, sarcasm and irony are the most effective tools with which to expose their pathology. |
| Why the Jews? The Reason for Antisemitism |
Date: 2012-01-19 23:20:46
By: Pamela Sue Alexander |
| I am a religious Jew and two of my favorite authors of Judaism are Rabbi Joseph Telushkin and author talk show host Dennis Prager. One of their best joint works is a book entitled \"Why the Jews? The Reason for Antisemitism.\" It presents the most well-reasoned and convincing argument for why we have been hated for 3,200 years. Of course, the book\'s conclusion is not new to us religious Jews who are conservatives. It is not due to our higher economic status, because poor Jews are hated just as much. It is not due to the need to find a scapegoat, for Jew-hatred exists in societies where there\'s been no need to blame others. And, it has nothing to do with our success. What is the cause? Judaism! We brought to the world ethical monotheism, one G-d, a G-d to Whom we will all answer, and we\'ve never been forgiven for it. Leftist Jews, many of them self-hating, self-loathing antisemites, hate G-d. Their worship of secular ideals, rejection of the G-d of Jewish history, and Torah law, leads them to hate the very people who live these truths: their fellow Jews. Most Jews are not shocked when leftist Jews prove themselves to be Jew-haters. It\'s as old as our People. And, while I\'m proud that Israel does not act shamefully, or turn needy people away -- for that is not Judaism! -- I\'m frankly tired of the abuse lobbed on it for doing the right thing. For every Jew-hater, for every antisemite trying to disguise themselves simply as \"anti-Zionist\" (which is the same thing), I have one proposal: You hate us? You hate the Jewish homeland? Then give up your Intel Pentium processors, your cell phones, Google, and everything else Israel has brought to the world. And, the anti-cancer vaccine just developed by my fellow Jews in Israel? Maybe Israel should do as other countries would: give it cheaply to our friends and charge a small fortune to our enemies. I\'ve had it! |
| Adam |
Date: 2012-01-17 19:58:24
By: Nelson |
| It\'s a shame that this woman is Jewish..and has never looked up the meaning of the word Adam..Adam,red rosy,to show blood in the face,to blush..She\'s Jewish,white and looks like she might be able to blush for insulting her own race...Maybe !!!! I hope the Dutch will be smart enough to surrender to Moshiach !!!! Wise up !!! |
| Ilse-Middle class house keeper |
Date: 2012-01-17 18:39:31
By: Benjamin |
| You\'ll come back, in your next life. Not as a Jew, you haven\'t a Jew\'s soul. You\'ll come back as an apologizer for all the crimes you and others have committed against the jews in word or deed, and you will suffer the infinite pain of every molecule that was hanged, gassed, burned, shot, drowned, stabbed, beheaded, strangled, starved, stoned. You will come back and suffer death for an entire life without smiling once and understand the meaning only at the end when G_D will do you the favor and cast your soul to hell, never to be spoken of ever again! |
| no one can be that IGNORANT |
Date: 2012-01-17 18:21:45
By: Carmen Quesada |
| NO ONE can be that IGNORANT!! Imagine having the best of care for your soon to be born baby and these are the comments in your heart?? Honestly...you have to feel verrrry sad for someone so blind.
Carmen |
| Ilse B...h! |
Date: 2012-01-17 18:36:41
By: Benjamin |
| You\'ll come back, in your next life. Not as a Jew, you haven\'t a Jew\'s soul. You\'ll come back as an apologizer for all the crimes you and others have committed against the jews in word or deed, and you will suffer the infinite pain of every molecule that was hanged, gassed, burned, shot, drowned, stabbed, beheaded, strangled, starved, stoned. You will come back and suffer death for an entire life without smiling once and understand the meaning only at the end when G_D will do you the favor and cast your soul to hell, never to be spoken of ever again! |
| Method |
Date: 2012-01-17 13:29:25
By: Gábor Fränkl |
| I know that this is controverstial but I couldn\'t care less a minute more. Shouldn\'t somehow these evil Hitlerian insects be annihilated whereever they are? Yes, that means even taking them out. Or \"Never again!\" is reduced to just slogan-status? |
| Disgusting |
Date: 2012-01-17 13:28:28
By: Robin |
| What was she doing in Israel to begin with? It\'s a pity she didn\'t die in childbirth. |
| Heusden and the Dutch |
Date: 2012-01-17 13:16:10
By: Gábor Fränkl |
| The woman is of course a blatant abomination, a kind of person who no doubt dreams about completeing Hitler\'s work if that would be possible. among her friends are Lisa Goldman, a Canadian extremist Jewish antisemite, who is also in connection in some official form with the far-Left (in my view rather neo-Nazi because of its pro-Israeldestruction position) online magazine + 972 Mag.
So much about her \"Jewish friends\".
The woman is of course a shame to/of humanity and let me say this without me risking my censorship here, occasionally - becauase of its shocking and utterly disgusting WWII history and even its presen anti-Israel attitudes, mostly in its national media - the Dutch nation (or at least the - vast - majority of it, along with its bigger - and smaller - fellow European countries) equally.
Sincerely,
Gábor Fränkl (33)
Budapest, Hungary |
| Good- evil & Evil Good |
Date: 2012-01-17 14:11:27
By: Galut |
| Issiah 5:20
simply Sad |
| No good deed ever goes unpunished. |
Date: 2012-01-17 16:23:56
By: Jez |
| Israel lets in people from all over the world and offers medical care to foreigners, Arabs and people of all religions. Actually it\'s just as much an entitlement economy as the European ones. It seems like the better the Jewish state treats people the more it gets condemned by the very people it helps. People forget how much aid and assistance Israel gives to the Palestinians. Anyway, to cut a long story short, they should have given her an abortion. |
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Date: 2012-01-17 14:13:04
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| And if she hadn\'t received such good care? evidence of the same racist evil no doubt. Whatever happens is seen through the ayn hara leading to the same result. |
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Date: 2012-01-17 14:20:16
By: Gábor Fränkl |
| Again, let me repeat wholesale: her \"Jewish\" friend is pro-genocidal extreme antisemite Torontonian Lisa Goldman \"journalist\" at \"+ 972 Magazine\". Two peas in a pot. |
| Shame |
Date: 2012-01-17 14:57:49
By: Arthur |
| 2nd time I read this... I feel shame to be Dutch if I read this...
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Date: 2012-01-17 15:27:27
By: Dale |
| Illse you should have opted to have your baby in \"Gaza\" ...no racists there ?! |
| The evil Jews |
Date: 2012-01-17 15:38:39
By: Hector R |
| I think she speaks true to her heritage; a couple of \"SS\" divisions?? |
| Holland |
Date: 2012-01-17 16:21:32
By: Gábor Fränkl |
| Arthur, yes you have good reason to feel shame becasued of bing Dutch. There is hardly any more execrable, abjectly low and base society in Europe today. In my personal experience (in Amsterdam) the Dutch are the greedisest, most venal, most money-worshipping creeps among all European nations. You have ample reason to be ashamed of your nationality, Arthur!!! Yes! I\'m DISGUSTED,utterly disgusted by your SS-colaborant, PR-fabricated/whitewashed cowardly, venal people!
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| Superb blog entry RJA! |
Date: 2012-01-17 17:58:17
By: Alexis |
| Kol HaKavod v\'Yasher Koach! You not only pegged this van Heusdan creep - you also nailed the very ethos of all the good old-fashioned Jew-haters throughout Europe and among Arabs...I will of course share this on my FB page! Also, Duncan, Dale and Hector - well said! And Arthur, as long as you speak out against such creatures as this woman, and don\'t perpetrate what she does, you can act as a great counter-balance to her utter bigotry, lies and ugliness - hopefully even cancelling out her and her ilk all together! ;o) |
| Idiots Lack of Education |
Date: 2012-01-17 13:57:17
By: duncan |
| Ilse Van Heusden, I am sorry to hear you are so ignorant. If you were such a jew hater, why would you have your child in Isreal? Why did you even go there?
Maybe to make yourself feel important like you really have something to say.
If your child had not been born healthy then you would have said they are racist because your child was not healthy. So the Isreali doctors were not in a win win situation with you no matter what. I think you are ungrateful, ignorant and the racist you claim them to be. I am happy your baby is healthy. I feel sorry you are ignorant and will raise an ignorant child. |
| Go Away |
Date: 2012-01-18 11:26:00
By: Jessica |
| The next time you need prenatal care, go to Lebanon, Iran or Syria for care. See how far you get there. We don\'t need people like you clogging up our hospitals and clinics. Another ego looking for adulation from an audience who loves idiots like you. Better yet, have your baby at home. |
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Date: 2012-01-18 07:27:33
By: chris k |
| She probably went to israel as she knew their record of success and also the fact they will treat anyone friend or foe. palestinians and people from gaza as well as any needing serious operations they don\'t have access to etc in their own land. They are also always one of the first countries to offer disaster relief, when floods or famine etc occures and it matters not what country haiti, turkey etc etc. of course that lady had a lovely health child and was so well looked after. bless you pople of israel u do the right thing and jehova will bless u |
| Listen to the source |
Date: 2012-01-18 16:18:12
By: Shmuel Weisfeld |
| Off The Beaten Track Israel interviewed the executive director of Honest Reporting about this, if you want to hear what he had to say, and he is the one that that broke the story i suggest you go to www,rustymikeradio.com or www.israelsportsradio.com and listen to what he had to say. click on the \"off the beaten track\" link |
| Zoltán and Hungary |
Date: 2012-01-18 09:00:38
By: G. Fränkl |
| Hungary is full of various antisemites and fascists. Zoltán is obviously just one of them. The whole country is swimming in the tide of abject primitivism, racism toward anyone and everyone not like the accepted model Hungarian etc. The far-right here consists roughly a good 25-30 percent of the overall population. It\'s no wonder then that so many can be found everwhere with their apologetics and propaganda. Shame on you, not this fine eye-opening piece! |
| Woman who hates Jews |
Date: 2012-01-18 06:44:57
By: cassandra |
| They should have sent her to a hospital in Gaza or Saudi Arabia: as a white infidel she would have received the correct treatment. |
| Ungrateful |
Date: 2012-01-18 16:45:59
By: Roland |
| This woman is anything but a Christian. Instead of voicing gratefulness at the care the health authorities had shown her, she goes off to spew venom and insults at the
very same people who shown her love.
Away with this miscreant !!
GET LOST ! |
| Evil Jews? |
Date: 2012-01-18 16:41:22
By: steve camp |
| Will someone please tell me why any news agency would print this pure B.S.? What is next? How About BLOOD LIABLE? Mmmm matsa. Taste that good christian baby blood? Yummy. |
| New mother |
Date: 2012-01-18 17:45:55
By: Cliff Ross |
| You are the stupidest bitch I\'ve heard of lately. People help you again and again , and you call them racist. Ignoramus.! |
| THIS article is RIDICULOUS |
Date: 2012-01-18 02:49:10
By: Propaganda Hater |
| The author of this article is not a discerner of parody and / or a member of a Christian-hating group called Israel Muse Portal (NEWS) on Facebook. I translated and read the article by van Duesden and she PRAISES Israel many times in her comparision of Israel and Netherlands! People commenting who hold the same beleifs as the highly resentful, paranoid, and propagandizing author of this article: Did you even translate and read the article and not understand it, or did you not and just took Avrech\'s slanderous and libel statements as the truth and nothing but? Good grief!!! |
| Jew hater |
Date: 2012-01-17 20:47:35
By: Michal Landor |
| Just want to ask who is the evil one here?
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| Jew hater |
Date: 2012-01-17 20:47:58
By: Michal Landor |
| Just want to ask who is the evil one here?
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